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		<title>By: Constantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, big name captchas were broken. BUT - what i see as a benefit for click-based solutions,  at least you make life easier for normal visitors, while level of sophistication it provides for both pure bots or hybrid systems is still comparable with text captchas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pht-comment-Constantine"><p><div style="display:none" class="ciu-hidden-uidConstantine ciu-hidden-cid12845"><p>This comment is hidden to you.</p></div><div class="ciu-comment-uidConstantine ciu-comment-cid12845"><p><p>Yes, big name captchas were broken. BUT &#8211; what i see as a benefit for click-based solutions,  at least you make life easier for normal visitors, while level of sophistication it provides for both pure bots or hybrid systems is still comparable with text captchas.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Clickcha Actually Working?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Clickcha Actually Working?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] belated &#8220;thank you&#8221; goes out to Frank Haywood for posting about Clickcha. Frank runs a great blog, makes some great products that are actually useful, etc. Take a moment to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Haywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Haywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Saurabh,

I LOVE the idea you&#039;ve come up with here, so I&#039;m glad to help if I can.

The spam I was seeing here on this blog wasn&#039;t from trackbacks or pingback, but was the usual comment spam (meds related) I&#039;m used to seeing which I&#039;ve always assumed was created by bots.

I&#039;ve always thought it safe to assume it was from bots as a real person wouldn&#039;t continue to post spam when it was clearly going into moderation.  Although having said that, it&#039;s entirely possible it was all from different people.

Over the last couple of years I&#039;ve read that for instance various big-name captcha systems have been broken, and even semi-automated work rounds developed where the bot software presents a pop-up to the user for them to manually enter the code.

Maybe something like that is going in the case of Clickcha?  Spammers do seem to work really quickly nowadays and also seem to have money or the skills to develop workarounds at speed.

Here&#039;s a couple of thoughts for an alternative.

Maybe supply a graphic of some sort, and some radio buttons?  Click the correct radio button before clicking submit.

I also had a suggestion for using Figlet to create a non-graphical captcha that would work on servers that didn&#039;t have GD support.

I hope this helps.

-Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pht-comment-1"><p><div style="display:none" class="ciu-hidden-uid1 ciu-hidden-cid12144"><p>This comment is hidden to you.</p></div><div class="ciu-comment-uid1 ciu-comment-cid12144"><p><p>Hi Saurabh,</p>
<p>I LOVE the idea you&#039;ve come up with here, so I&#039;m glad to help if I can.</p>
<p>The spam I was seeing here on this blog wasn&#039;t from trackbacks or pingback, but was the usual comment spam (meds related) I&#039;m used to seeing which I&#039;ve always assumed was created by bots.</p>
<p>I&#039;ve always thought it safe to assume it was from bots as a real person wouldn&#039;t continue to post spam when it was clearly going into moderation.  Although having said that, it&#039;s entirely possible it was all from different people.</p>
<p>Over the last couple of years I&#039;ve read that for instance various big-name captcha systems have been broken, and even semi-automated work rounds developed where the bot software presents a pop-up to the user for them to manually enter the code.</p>
<p>Maybe something like that is going in the case of Clickcha?  Spammers do seem to work really quickly nowadays and also seem to have money or the skills to develop workarounds at speed.</p>
<p>Here&#039;s a couple of thoughts for an alternative.</p>
<p>Maybe supply a graphic of some sort, and some radio buttons?  Click the correct radio button before clicking submit.</p>
<p>I also had a suggestion for using Figlet to create a non-graphical captcha that would work on servers that didn&#039;t have GD support.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>-Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,

I am the developer of Clickcha. Thanks for reviewing it on your blog. Please let me know the problems you faced on your other blog and I&#039;ll try to fix them.

Let me clarify the other two issues. 

1) Clickcha does not touch existing comments. So it cannot delete comments. It merely blocks or allows the comments at the time of submission.

2) The other spam you are seeing in akismet could be pingbacks and trackbacks. As they are supposed to be automated, Clickcha ignores them. If you don&#039;t want pingbacks/trackbacks you can disable them in the Wordpress discussion settings.

If the spam you are seeing in akismet is not pingbacks or trackbacks please let me know and I&#039;ll investigate.</description>
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<p>I am the developer of Clickcha. Thanks for reviewing it on your blog. Please let me know the problems you faced on your other blog and I&#039;ll try to fix them.</p>
<p>Let me clarify the other two issues. </p>
<p>1) Clickcha does not touch existing comments. So it cannot delete comments. It merely blocks or allows the comments at the time of submission.</p>
<p>2) The other spam you are seeing in akismet could be pingbacks and trackbacks. As they are supposed to be automated, Clickcha ignores them. If you don&#039;t want pingbacks/trackbacks you can disable them in the WordPress discussion settings.</p>
<p>If the spam you are seeing in akismet is not pingbacks or trackbacks please let me know and I&#039;ll investigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Frank,

That is a very interesting find.  Like you say, there is still the odd one that slips through the net with Akismet, BUT, with this there is no way for robots to get past it :-)

I just hope I am intelligent enough to work out which circle to click on...lol

Talk soon,

Paul</description>
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<p>That is a very interesting find.  Like you say, there is still the odd one that slips through the net with Akismet, BUT, with this there is no way for robots to get past it <img src='http://www.frankhaywood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just hope I am intelligent enough to work out which circle to click on&#8230;lol</p>
<p>Talk soon,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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