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		<title>By: Frank Haywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Haywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James,

When I&#039;ve cleared a few outstanding tasks I&#039;m beginning an exercise to move my last few remaining domains (4) from UK2 to either NameCheap.com or 123-reg.co.uk (for my .co.uk) domains.

Recently an old domain that I registered for my mother-in-law to use for email (she wanted something a little different) that&#039;s no longer required was attempted to be renewed by UK2 even though I&#039;d set it not to auto-renew.  Fortunately my credit card with UK2 had expired and it didn&#039;t go through, and of course I have no intention of entering my new card details in there.  I&#039;ve had a few reminders from Nominet and I&#039;m in two minds to write to them about UK2s &quot;sharp practices&quot;.  UK2 are nothing but trouble.

These are just awful business practices they&#039;re engaged in, and from what I&#039;ve read since I made this post, UK2 and 1&amp;1 and Fasthosts are all now owned by the same parent company.  OMG.

I pity all the people and business who have registered domains or have hosting with any of these companies.  If you do a search you&#039;ll find that the practices that 1&amp;1 are now engaging in are passing non-existent &quot;debts&quot; to a third party firm who are then chasing people down and threatening them with CCJs.  All in the name of making a fast buck.

Lousy.

What I&#039;ve done is already moved some domains, and let others expire.

UK2 have made it a *little* easier to do transfers now than when I write this, and I think if I start the transfer process within the next 3 weeks I&#039;m outside the 60-day period outside dowmina renewal when you&#039;re not allowed to move domains, so I&#039;ve got to do this quickly.

The two best registrars that I now use exclusively are NameCheap.com (almost no adverts or upsells) for most domains, and 123-reg for .uk domains.  And I use HostNine for my web hosting as they charge US prices but have some UK servers.  ;-)

-Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pht-comment-1"><p><div style="display:none" class="ciu-hidden-uid1 ciu-hidden-cid13638"><p>This comment is hidden to you.</p></div><div class="ciu-comment-uid1 ciu-comment-cid13638"><p><p>Hi James,</p>
<p>When I&#039;ve cleared a few outstanding tasks I&#039;m beginning an exercise to move my last few remaining domains (4) from UK2 to either NameCheap.com or 123-reg.co.uk (for my .co.uk) domains.</p>
<p>Recently an old domain that I registered for my mother-in-law to use for email (she wanted something a little different) that&#039;s no longer required was attempted to be renewed by UK2 even though I&#039;d set it not to auto-renew.  Fortunately my credit card with UK2 had expired and it didn&#039;t go through, and of course I have no intention of entering my new card details in there.  I&#039;ve had a few reminders from Nominet and I&#039;m in two minds to write to them about UK2s &#034;sharp practices&#034;.  UK2 are nothing but trouble.</p>
<p>These are just awful business practices they&#039;re engaged in, and from what I&#039;ve read since I made this post, UK2 and 1&#038;1 and Fasthosts are all now owned by the same parent company.  OMG.</p>
<p>I pity all the people and business who have registered domains or have hosting with any of these companies.  If you do a search you&#039;ll find that the practices that 1&#038;1 are now engaging in are passing non-existent &#034;debts&#034; to a third party firm who are then chasing people down and threatening them with CCJs.  All in the name of making a fast buck.</p>
<p>Lousy.</p>
<p>What I&#039;ve done is already moved some domains, and let others expire.</p>
<p>UK2 have made it a *little* easier to do transfers now than when I write this, and I think if I start the transfer process within the next 3 weeks I&#039;m outside the 60-day period outside dowmina renewal when you&#039;re not allowed to move domains, so I&#039;ve got to do this quickly.</p>
<p>The two best registrars that I now use exclusively are NameCheap.com (almost no adverts or upsells) for most domains, and 123-reg for .uk domains.  And I use HostNine for my web hosting as they charge US prices but have some UK servers.  <img src='http://www.frankhaywood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Frank</p>
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		<title>By: James Fawcett</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Fawcett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,

I have just logged onto uk2 to find that two of the domains that i had set to &quot;do not auto renew&quot; which i had checked and double checked, they have charged me for! i then checked another of my domains which i had set previously to &quot;do not auto renew&quot;, to find that it too had been changed to &quot;renew&quot; by their system!

i have sent a support to billing department saying i dont want to pay for them and i did not authorise the transaction, did you get your money back?
this is bad practice by uk2, i have a dedicated server and loads of domains with them, this isnt the first problem ive had from them either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pht-comment-James Fawcett"><p><div style="display:none" class="ciu-hidden-uidJames Fawcett ciu-hidden-cid13629"><p>This comment is hidden to you.</p></div><div class="ciu-comment-uidJames Fawcett ciu-comment-cid13629"><p><p>Hi Frank,</p>
<p>I have just logged onto uk2 to find that two of the domains that i had set to &#034;do not auto renew&#034; which i had checked and double checked, they have charged me for! i then checked another of my domains which i had set previously to &#034;do not auto renew&#034;, to find that it too had been changed to &#034;renew&#034; by their system!</p>
<p>i have sent a support to billing department saying i dont want to pay for them and i did not authorise the transaction, did you get your money back?<br />
this is bad practice by uk2, i have a dedicated server and loads of domains with them, this isnt the first problem ive had from them either!</p>
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